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I agree, I've been giving an initial ballpark number ahead of time just to save myself time. Maybe some initial dance to also find get their range. Some companies will share that and independent recruiters even more likely.

One can always qualify the initially named number with some words assuming a reasonable similarity in work environment, responsibilities, benefits, vacation, etc. Adjustments after can always be discussed in a that kind of context.

But I also try to keep a rough concept of what's paying in my area. It seems unlikely I'm going to dramatically undercut myself, at it seems low odds that the practice might cut off some magic high pay