[DennisAleynikov]

yes, the opinions of 40million "more" americans are irrelevant in a country where 330million reside. its a big territory with a lot of different laws, borders and voting districts.

gerrymandering is the enemy not the electoral college itself.

in a similar vein people brought up that democrats got more individual votes and "won" the popular vote in 2016. again cool? but completely irrelevant.

[syki]

It’s not irrelevant if a majority consistently feel their will is ignored. It’s not irrelevant if it leads to widespread discontent. The system set up 250 years ago is no longer sustainable. It’s needs to be changed.

[whythre]

The only reason our nation exists is because of the agreements made between large and small states. Rhode Island was not interested in being completely politically eclipsed by New York, and rightly so. Tyranny of the majority is still tyranny.

The system set up 250 years ago was and is a wonder. When you cry out for sweeping change you ignore what happens if the transformation is prosecuted badly. Most revolutions are not conducted with any measure of restraint or wisdom. They end up like France or Haiti or China or Russia or on and on.

[syki]

I have not ignored anything. The system is not sustainable and needs to be changed. It can be changed in an orderly way and it can also be changed in a disorderly way. However it occurs or whatever form it takes it’s clear to me that change will occur eventually. It’s not feasible to think that what worked 250 years ago will always work. The framers even knew that what they set up will need to be updated periodically since they built in an updating mechanism into the system.

[mocheeze]

And the American revolution was rational and free of bloodshed? Or the Confederation's revolution?