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by jacquesm 1647 days ago
Ok, good luck with that. After 55 or so comments out of a total of 330 in this thread I think your endless repetitions of the same bits don't contribute but just detract, there is some good that can come of this but not by this ridiculous stream of unsupported assertions.

Once more: you do not know what that set of headphones have gone through and you do not know the finer details of the charging setup. Both of these matter enormously and until that data is available anything you add to it in terms of conclusions is speculative.

For some reason you seem to be either in a panic or overreacting but this whole thread isn't even about you. So why the over the top responses, including suggesting that something exploded, that this is a systemic issue, that somebody died and so on, it makes no sense to me. Count to ten and relax, the world will continue to turn even if one Bose set of headphones came to a bad end (which is all the evidence we seem to have) and let's learn what we can from this instance to ensure that if (which we do not know for sure) there is a quality control or a design issue that it gets found.

And that's not just because of Bose but also because of the 10's of millions of other devices using similar setups.

As for the warning: that warning applies to any device that contains rechargeable lithium ion batteries. Shape change or warming up when they shouldn't be is a very strong indicator you have a problem that is about to get a lot worse. Not having that warning in their manual would have been irresponsible, of course Bose - and every other LiIon powered device manufacturer) is aware of that and instructs their customers accordingly.

Not that anybody ever reads the instructions. And if they did I'll bet that people would not be so happy with Lithium Ion any more. But after having used a couple of hundred cells in various shapes and sizes and advising on the way a certain piece of consumer electronics was put together (wearable, LiIon powered) I think I have a reasonably good idea of what it takes to get one of these cells to misbehave and my list of suspects would be, in order:

- charging circuitry

- impact or drop damage

- cell piercing

- repair gone bad (either of the headphones or of the charging circuitry)

- temperature damage / operating / charging outside of allowed temperature envelope (charging circuitry should protect against this)

and finally

- manufacturing defect (either at Bose, or their supplier) implying at least a quality control issue at Bose

- design error

You seem to jump to 'structural manufacturing defect' as your conclusion without having the required data to establish that that is indeed what happened here.

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>Ok, good luck with that. After 30 or so comments I think your endless repetitions of the same bits don't contribute but just detract

Repetition, my friend, is the mother of learning.

My comments resulted in the OP reporting the incident to the CPSC[1]. That's my contribution.

The rest is pure fun.

>Not having that warning in their manual would have been irresponsible, of course Bose - and every other LiIon powered device manufacturer) is aware of that and instructs their customers accordingly.

OK, let's just focus on that one word: irresponsible.

Count to ten, and quote me the warning from the manual that would indicate that OP's experience is a possibility.

(It's not there. Bose was, as you said, irresponsible, and there is only one way to force companies to be responsible in the US).

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29602614

You're not the OP, you are monopolizing this thread with more bits than you'd normally have a right to, I suggest - mildly - that you reconsider whether or not you think this is a proportional response to something that does not concern you directly or that it is possible that you are over-reacting. And finally, whether the point that you are ineffectively trying to make is served by this behavior.