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by tw04 1639 days ago
You appear to be the one uninformed about the definition of human subject research.

>But if they're not obtaining data about a living individual, then it's not human subjects research.

Sure, if you completely ignore the other half of the definition, per the NIH:

https://grants.nih.gov/policy/humansubjects/research.htm

> Obtains information or biospecimens through intervention or interaction with the individual, and uses, studies, or analyzes the information or biospecimens;

They are absolutely collecting information to analyze by interacting with the individual.