[jancsika]

> The mainstream adopted it, and now there's a new generation of people who think that sound is mainstream lifeless bullshit and will create something that is NOT mainstream lifeless bullshit.

That doesn't follow.

1. a blues singer listens to mainstream

2. a blues singer hears a variety of blues influences on the mainstream

3. a blues singer says, "Hey great, we got some blues influences in the mainstream, let me try to add some more"

[eightysixfour]

What? I think we're talking about different processes and different time frames. The blues musician who just wants to be popular/mainstream isn't really what I'm going for, because they stop at step 2:

1. "Hipster" creates music that is anti-mainsteam, becomes popular for doing something different (and doing it well, at the right time/place, etc.)

2. Over years, mainstream music adopts unique thing hipster did. <- this is where you stop

3 New generation of hipsters create music that is anti-mainstream... <- this is what is relevant to this discussion

You can find examples of the above in any modern genre of music and I would argue is a part of a bigger pattern that happens to any sub/counter culture.