[pvarangot]

I lived in a shared house in the Mission and the neighborhood is still safe enough so that you don't need that. We literally buzzed in anyone that dare ring and friends are still there and still do and never in the two years I lived there, one pandemic one not, we had issues with people wandering in unchecked and doing nasty stuff inside. The Bay Area insecurity thing is blown out of proportion. I'm in Noe Valley now and my drunk condo neighbor forgot the garage door open and it took like four or five hours for someone to actually take something from inside and it was a guy that was clearly not doing well, he wasn't even wearing shoes.

So in my experience so far bros in finance just out of college renting a 3 million condo are more at fault for stuff getting stolen from my property than the cops, the homeless and politicians.

[slices]

> my drunk condo neighbor forgot the garage door open and it took like four or five hours for someone to actually take something from inside

In most of the US, including many moderate size cities, a garage left open for 4-5 hours would not have anything stolen from it.

[pvarangot]

Yeah I'm not saying San Francisco doesn't have an issue with the mentally ill and antisocial chaps stealing from everyone, I'm just saying that my direct experience doesn't match what one would expect when reading headlines or outraged people on online forums. I lived in Argentina before and I was home invaded at gunpoint once, mugged on the street once, and fended off muggers on the street countless times, so maybe I'm just not a good reference because Mission St. between 16th and 24th was the safest place I lived in my life until I moved to Noe Valley.

[EricE]

So SF isn't as bad as the third world? Whew - what a relief /s

The amount of utter BS people in CA are willing to put up with never ceases to amaze me. Which is why I find it harder and harder to have any sympathy. At this time we might as well let it all burn down - maybe then people will finally get off their asses and vote for anyone other than the current crop of utter moron politicians that are literally destroying the state.

When CA goes from the most prosperous state to loosing enough pop to get demoted a representative in the House - you'd think that would be enough of a wake up call that shit democrat policies might not be such a good idea. But here we continue to remain talking about this stuff while nothing changes.

The faster it all just burns to the ground the faster it might get rebuilt into something that's not a literal needle infested pile of shit :/

[dragonwriter]

> When CA goes from the most prosperous state to loosing enough pop to get demoted a representative in the House

It didn't lose any population. Because of the fixed size of the House, you can lose a rep while gaining population (in California’s case, gaining more than 2.2 million between the 2010 and 2020 census.) Also, apportionment isn't tied at all to prosperitt; California didn't get any less relatively prosperous to lose a seat, so your “going from...” doesn't make any sense, even ignoring the factual error about losing population.

[barbacoa]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/07/us/california-population-drop...

California experienced a population decline in 2021, the first in its history as a state. That may be what GP was referring.

[dragonwriter]

> California experienced a population decline in 2021, the first in its history as a state. That may be what GP was referring.

That couldn't be the population drop GP referred to costing a house seat, since it was after the Census on which the apportionment was based, and would have no effect on apportionment except in how it contributes to the state at the time of the 2030 Census.

[pvarangot]

No, it's better than the third world. You are arguing with yourself, no one said it's as bad as the third world. I literally said it's the safest place I've ever lived in my life.

[stjohnswarts]

Yeah I leave mine open all the time when I go on store runs as I figure it increases the life of my garage door opener by a fair bit. I've never had anything stole (I have a camera system and alarm would go off if they had because of motion sensors)