[aa-jv]

Besides the media, who else do you think could be relied on to gain an opinion on this issue? My German friends and associates - I don't know a single German, after 15 years of living in and around Germany and Austria, who wants US bases in Germany any more - in fact the majority of 'common people' that I know, want the USA to remove all of their bases from Europe, take their war machines, and go home.

From outside the American media bubble, it is quite clear to see which nation is committing the majority of crimes against humanity and war crimes today, and they don't speak Russian. They commit these crimes like cowards, hiding in Arizona strip malls, remotely controlling their death robots and raining hell and fury down on utterly innocent people, every single day. Germans know this and care. Americans either don't know about it, or don't care - or both.

[bananabernhard]

I think the fact that the parties that are in favor of leaving NATO have very little political relevance speaks for itself. And my anecdotal evidence after living my entire live in Germany is, that most people just don't care, and even the people that care and like NATO outnumber the ones that hate them. It's just my experience though. And if you're so deep into conspiracies, that your only explanation is that "the media" faked the poll (and possibly even the election, wtf) then I don't think there is any value in continuing this discussion.