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by theshrike79 1652 days ago
Yes, that's the dictionary definition of meme.

But in practical use "meme" has devolved to mean "a picture with a joke" pretty much. There may be a meme-like shared component, but mostly it's just a picture with a joke in it.

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I think "meme" is a bit more than a picture with a joke. Of course anything can be called a "meme" but it is meaningless to do so if we discard the original conceptual meaning of "meme" altogether.

First of all a meme is something that can spread by duplication, and possibly mutate in the process. It must be like a gene in that respect.

Secondly it doesn't need to be a "joke". It must be something that TELLS us something about the world we live in, and about people around us. It has to have a message. Maybe the message is expressed in terms of a joke and yes jokes tell us something about the world. A meme might be an expression that aptly describes a recurring situation. We may not laugh at it, but inside our heads we say "yes that truly describes that situation".

A meme is like a poem, like a haiku. It catches the essence of some situation that many people encounter. It succinctly tells us a lot. Therefore it spreads because it is easy to pass on, and it has value because it tells us a lot.

There have been jokes circulating on the internet for a long time. But jokes are not "memes". Jokes are something that make us laugh, memes are something that tell us the essence of some recurring phenomenon.

There are memes that aren't funny and aren't meant to be funny. Mostly political ones.

Sometimes memes were funny, then got (over)used in a particular context and now they aren't used as jokes, they just symbolize that thing. For example pepe frog.

Looks like people are using three different definitions of "meme".

* Richard Dawkin's original definition, who invented the term "meme" in 1976, even though the idea of memes and memes itself existed before

* pictures with text at the top and at the bottom, I believe originating from the "advice dog" meme

* some well known internet joke, like the hunter2 thing from bash.org which is repeated on reddit whenever someone mentions passwords