[robscallsign]

It's also the ongoing cost of the voice and data plans, replacement cost of the phone if/when it breaks, replacement cost of the phone when the $3 Trillion dollar tech company forces it to be obsolete, replacement cost for the battery they don't let you service.

[marginalia_nu]

> replacement cost

I got fed up with replacing my phone, so I've started getting those rugged phones marketed at construction workers. They're pretty amazing. I've submerged mine in water, dropped it in all sorts of surfaces (including concrete, gravel), gotten snow on it, gotten mud on it. The screen is immaculate. I've owned it for a few years and it still has something like 40h+ battery life. Best phone I've ever bought.

[sojournerc]

Which phone if you don't mind? I've spent the effort to replace screens & batteries when they go bad or are broken, but frankly when the replacement screen is 50% of the original phone price it just doesn't seem worth it... Although I still want to from an e-waste perspective

[marginalia_nu]

I currently have a CAT S52.

Some downsides is that it's pretty heavy and comes with bundle-ware from John Deere (easy enough to uninstall). It's not a fast or pretty phone by any standard, but my phone use is very basic so for me it matters more that it lasts than bells and whistles.