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by qalmakka
1650 days ago
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The situation you describe is arguably different, if you eval() code you just fetched from an HTTP server you are deliberately, knowingly doing something very dangerous and it's only your fault. You are the one loading and cocking the gun. By the way, you can do the same thing everywhere, nothing stops you from doing system("sh -c \"wget -O - someurl | gcc -x c - && ./a.out\"")
in C and allow the world to pwn you. What is arguable here is that in this case it is definitely not the language or the system's fault if their users are so dumb to invent a creative way to abuse a facility intended for a different use.Viceversa, the JRE includes and standardizes facilities to potentially download and execute code without any reasonable sandboxing by default, out of the box, in the standard install. It's as if Python had mandated by standard to check if the data passed to `eval()` is an HTTP URL in order to download and eval() whatever resides at that address. It's not the same by any margin. One thing is to shoot yourself in the foot by mistake , one other is to have in your toolbox a device that by design chops your feet off. The thing that bewilders me is that the whole "let's download untrusted .class files from the Internet" thing was a deliberate design choice and it took people 25 years to realize how idiotic it was. There's a whole sea of difference between that and what you've described. |
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