[zitterbewegung]

Yea, this made me look to alternatives and I mainly use Huggingface instead. I don't want to wake up one day and learn that a side project got rejected by a higher power and I have to write a HN post to get my account unlocked.

[jfoster]

Things have truly become quite dire when we won't even use an API in a side-project out of fear that the account could get blocked. It means there must be a whole lot of businesses who, unless assurances are made & believed, won't want to use OpenAI (or similarly unique services) to build upon. I know I certainly wouldn't want to put OpenAI at the core of any project that I work on.

The interesting thing is that this changes as soon as they gain a competitor or genuinely open alternative, as at that point getting an account blocked wouldn't mean all is lost.

[stavros]

What model do you use with Huggingface? Huggingface is just a wrapper.

[zitterbewegung]

Blenderbot and distillery and I'm looking into use others also. GPT-3 has multiple models associated with it now so it has become a wrapper also.

[stavros]

Hmm, how do these compare to GPT-3 for dialog? One issue I have with GPT-3 is that it doesn't remember anything.

[zitterbewegung]

GPT-3 has you crafting a conversation while HuggingFace was much easier to use. Blenderbot v2 will have memory and I am looking towards replacing my version with Blenderbot v2.

[stavros]

Hm yeah, Blenderbot v2 does sound great, but as far as I can see, Huggingface doesn't support it yet.

[zitterbewegung]

I evaluated both HuggingFace and parlai. At first I tried to understand how parlai worked and I couldn't figure it out. Once I moved forward HuggingFace I knew enough python to figure out how to use blenderbot. I am either hoping that Facebook will contribute it or I will just figure out parlai once I release my side project.

[lolspace]

I did the same with AppStore in 2007 lol Good luck

[throwawaygh]

the crucial difference is that OpenAI doesn't have an iPhone, right?

[schleck8]

They have a huge computing platform and a brand name

[jfoster]

Which can be substituted by any other computing platform that has the necessary function for your application. As long as one exists, you're good to go. (possibly none exist yet)

The brand name doesn't count for anything unless you, as an application developer, decide to assign some value to it.

[throwawaygh]

The compute platform is commodity. Even Accenture has a cloud.

The brand name holds little weight outside of developer communities. But developers are exactly the group that will happily shop around alternatives. The App Store had power because of consumer buy-in, not dev buy-in.

[zitterbewegung]

Huggingface has the same things but it has the feel of Github.