[Sohcahtoa82]

> You should look up the new Mercedes system. If you haven’t heard about it it only functions up to like 37 mph, but it’s level three self driving. The kind where the driver doesn’t have to monitor it. So where it can work (map freeways) it can completely take over in slow traffic. Pretty impressive.

Tesla's Autopilot works perfectly on the highways, in my experience. I've done a few thousand miles on the highway, and I think the only times I've had to manually take control are when my one lane is becoming two lanes, and it gets confused.

I do agree that eventually, the other manufacturers will surpass Tesla, but it's going to be a long timeframe (I think ~10 years), and it will hinge on being compatible with Tesla chargers, since the other networks are either too slow (Seriously, whoever decided that 7.2 kW J-1772 chargers should exist did a major disservice to EV adoption), too expensive, and too spread out.

[MBCook]

I’m not arguing against autopilot. But it’s level 2. You still have to monitor it. I find the Mercedes system interesting because it’s level 3, even if only in limited circumstances.

Also level 2 charging? Preach. Public charging (except at like hotels) seems like it should be minimum 50kw.

[Sohcahtoa82]

You only "have" to monitor Tesla's AP for liability purposes.

If the only difference between Level 2 and Level 3 is whether or not you have to monitor it, then I think its just market buzz, and Mercedes will kill someone because they'll claim that their system didn't need to be monitored, so someone won't, and it will make a mistake and someone will die.

Limited to 37 mph with the claim you don't need to monitor it means someone is going to be in heavy traffic, activate it, then fall asleep. When traffic clears up and they're still sleeping, they're going to get rear-ended when the car is putting along at 37 mph while everyone else is going 60+.