[capdeck]

I don't think people can make politicians accountable as long as primary incentives for those politicians are campaign contributions from corporations and wealthy donors. A politician only has motivation to do bare minimum not to lose elected office. As we have seen with CA governor - even utterly failed governance, mandate firings and senseless school closures do not sway the public enough. If _that_ can't do it, what else can? It seems that the only real way to vote in US is with your "legs" - i.e. move to another state (an option that countries like Austria do not even have :-( )

[bko]

> as long as primary incentives for those politicians are campaign contributions from corporations and wealthy donors

I would imagine corporations funding politicians would want their businesses not be vandalized. I get some NIMBY policies are pushed by wealthy donors w/ real estate but that should be balanced out by developers.

Something deeper is wrong. It's almost as these politicians are purposely destroying the vast amount of wealth built up over the years and letting in chaos.

[xiphias2]

Why wouldn't Amazon, Google and EBay want products to be stolen from their competitors and resold on their web site?