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by elric 1643 days ago
> I also strongly doubt your statements about spike protein distribution, all cells have lipid membranes. The vaccine is injected into the muscle in your arm. Why would it accumulate in the heart?

I was under the impression that accidental injection into the bloodstream was likely the culprit. The linked study doesn't speculate on a mechanism however.

The odds of hitting a blood vessel seem pretty small, and the odds of adverse reactions when it does happen also seem pretty small. The article claims an incidence rate of 1-10 per million.

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I wonder though. I know someone under 40 who has complained of heart arrhythmia, sudden severe fatigue and a squeezing pressure on his chest. He had Moderna but it happened >7 days afterwards. He never reported it because he assumed it was psychological instead and that doctors would dismiss it with anti-depressants.

The paper doesn't give a rate for this type of thing, only for people who went to hospital. But if this is really one-in-a-million stuff I really wonder how I happen to know someone who has it. Also there are only ~21 million software developers in the world, HN has only a fraction of them reading let alone commenting and yet this thread is filling up with people describing the exact same thing that happened to my friend.

I find it hard to believe these things are really as rare as they're implying. Perhaps there's a reason they don't give rates for the "squeeze+tiredness+irregular heartbeat" problem.

> But if this is really one-in-a-million stuff I really wonder how I happen to know someone who has it

Do we teach statistics in school anymore? This is such a nonsensical remark.

That's perfectly well-grounded. If a large chunk of your acquaintances were to be predisposed to something due to selection bias, you might be in similar groups and be predisposed to similar things.
From what I managed to find out, the IV injection is flagged as a danger only for AZ and due to clot risk, not due to inflammation risk. At least that's the idea behind aspiration before injection in Denmark.