[015a]

Sure they are; federal, state, and private entities are absolutely running active experiments on the broad safety and efficacy of these vaccines against new variants. That makes them "experimental".

We've got enough data to reasonably assert that they're safe. That doesn't mean they aren't experimental.

Its like saying gravity is a theory. It sure is. That doesn't mean my phone won't break when I drop it.

[Nursie]

sigh.

In which case all medicine is experimental, because it's all being studied all the time.

[kcolford]

There's a reason doctors call it "practicing" medicine...

(And it has nothing to do with the word practice getting a connotation of imperfect performance long after that phrase came into existence. :D )

[tekknik]

most of which the companies have not been shielded against, like in this case, and again most of which was not developed in a rushed fashion to address an immediate need.

have you forgotten about the people having heart issues after receiving the shot?

[Nursie]

Not at all, but they are a tiny number of people from the multiple billions now vaccinated, and the vast majority of them recover just fine.

This is a very safe vaccine, far safer than getting covid (at any age) and that wouldn't make it 'experimental' anyway.

[tekknik]

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/1...

Hmmm…

[tekknik]

our definitions of experimental are very different.

you also assume that if issues didn’t arise shortly after vaccination that issues won’t arise down the road, this is why we do lengthy drug trials and not “5 min express” approvals.

and if it’s so safe then how come the companies developing them still have immunity? if it’s safe and not experimental we can remove that and open them up to lawsuits right?