Hacker News new | ask | show | jobs
by s1artibartfast 1651 days ago
We also have 80 years of experience with the flu vaccine opposed to 8 months
1 comments
SECProto 1651 days ago
> We also have 80 years of experience with the flu vaccine opposed to 8 months

8 months is incorrect. Here's[1] an article from 17 months ago about results from Moderna's covid-19 trials for vaccinations dating back to mar16 2020. So it's been 21 months, not 8 (and that's ignoring trials of mRNA vaccines years earlier as they weren't for this specific virus)

[1] https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/07/hopeful-...

link
s1artibartfast 1651 days ago
We can split hairs on what constitutes experience, or when it starts. but the point still stands: We have a lot more experience with the flu vaccine.

This is the answer for why not all annual flu vaccines need clinical trials.

link
ashildr 1650 days ago
„the flu vaccine“?

Which one?

link
s1artibartfast 1650 days ago
The first vaccines in 1933 were against A type influenzas, followed by vaccines against against B type influenzas in 1942.

Here is a pretty good summary of the history of vaccine development.

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/812621_1

While nearly all influenza vaccines generate similar antibodies, Covid and influenza vaccines generate significantly different antibodies

Influenza vaccines generate antibodies against influenza Hemagglutinin proteins targeting sialic acid receptors

Covid vaccines generate antibodies for (S) glycoproteins targeting ACE-2 receptors.

In short, we have 80+ years of experience generating antibodies for hemagglutinin, and much less for (S) glycoproteins.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus_spike_protein

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemagglutinin_(influenza)

link