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by mbesto 1649 days ago
> You're implicitly arguing that NoOps is not only a functional model, but also scalable and much less costly than having a

I'm not. You implied too much.

> You might want to stop throwing around terms like TCO when you also clearly don't understand how to calculate it.

I do. I never said that people were completely eliminated (see one of my child comments). Everything you implied was that "well devs are doing the effort and that doesn't get calculated". That wasn't my argument - you just added that nuance as a retort.

> I guarantee you that conversations are being had in boardrooms right now about how to reduce dependency on that region, if not AWS entirely.

I guarantee you they are not. Also, how many data center providers let you simply spin up your whole environment into another region, point n click, and complete it in hours?

Source - work with 100+ companies with PE folks that sit on boards.
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ryanjkirk 1649 days ago
> I guarantee you they are not.

I'm speaking from firsthand knowledge. How embarrassing for you to think that because you know some Private Equity folks (generally the worst people at managing technology), that 100% of the rest of the world is doing (or not doing) exactly what they're doing.

You wrote paragraphs about how expensive it is to hire people to do stuff in a datacenter. What is your argument, if it is not that this is more costly than outsourcing it?

This entire debate should be recast the simple "build vs buy" concept that it already is.

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mbesto 1648 days ago
> I'm speaking from firsthand knowledge.

So am I. My reference to PE firms was that my anecdote of the few boards I'm on is supplemented by their experience.

> This entire debate should be recast the simple "build vs buy" concept that it already is.

Because that's entirely the premise of my argument. Did you read the parent comment and what I was responding to?

PS - Say what you want about PE folk, but they are the most ruthless capitalists. So IMHO they are far more incentivized to drive cost efficiencies than anyone else because profit = EBITDA = valuations.

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