[insickness]

You inadvertently provide an excellent example of what is causing polarization in America: Highlight the worst possible examples from the side you oppose while assigning the most charitable intentions to the side you support.

[idontwantthis]

Where is a single Democratic politician fighting to close polling places and restrict Republican populations from voting? Where is a single Republican politician fighting to give greater access to the vote?

Where was a single Democrat who stormed the Virginia capital when Republicans won the Governorship?

2 Republicans in Congress voted for an investigation of the insurrections, so there you go: charity.

[Clubber]

While you focus on the other party, you are probably ignoring the detrimental things the party you support does. This is by design. The GOP supporters do the same thing and can list all the horrible things the Democratic Party does with equal fervor.

Did you know the GOP doesn't have superdelegates like the Democrats do? Superdelegates are certainly an example of manipulating the will of the people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdelegate

[pjc50]

Superdelegates are a matter of internal party organisation. The party still has to go through a real election, whoever's chosen.

(It is very weird that the internal politics and internal elections of US political parties seem to be a public matter; open primaries are unheard of in most of the rest of the world.)

[Clubber]

It's a lot more important with a 2 party system. If one party's administration gets almost 20% of the total primary votes, that's a pretty heavy thumb on the scale. We typically only get 2 real choices: red or blue.

[idontwantthis]

Ah yes, superdelegates. One of many gripes with the Democratic Party that are famously equivalent to armed insurrection supported by sitting members of Congress.

[Clubber]

Can you name 5 horrible things the Democratic Party has done in say the last 30 years? If not, you've been brainwashed.

[cool_dude85]

Take a look at primary elections in Democrat strongholds like NY to see the same kind of voting restrictions you're railing against, designed of course to ensure that current party power brokers are difficult to challenge.

[theword_]

Totally dishonest to compare primaries to general elections.

[archagon]

As far as I’m concerned, “attempted coup” is a burned bridge that will never be rebuilt. I’m not a member of the Democratic party, but there is nothing the Republican party can do to make me ever vote for them in the future. I hope that the party withers and dies, and that any remaining sensible people go and form a new party.

Some offenses are simply unforgivable.

[totony]

I think "attempted coup" definition has already been discussed hell and back. It's a very disingenuous description of what happened. Also, it is very disingenuous to blacklist one of your only two parties because of what a (small) subset of their voters did.

N.B.: Not american

[DarylZero]

Trump tried to overturn the election result for _months_. It wasn't just one day and it certainly wasn't just "voters."

Even the people in the GOP who refused to back his coup attempt did not sever ties with Trump.

[totony]

Overthrowing a vote which was manipulated is not a coup. What Trump did is he challenged the rightfulness of the vote for months in court. That's a far cry from what you're describing.

Now, you may disagree (as the courts) that it was manipulated. Being wrong does not make what he did a coup.

[archagon]

https://twitter.com/hugolowell/status/1468989737490911232

If this doesn't look like some uncontrovertibly fascist shit to you, then we live in entirely different realities.

[totony]

If you were president, and suspected vote manipulation/foreign influence on voting, what would you do?

[DarylZero]

It's a classic modern coup, to tell lies about the election and discard it.

[edmcnulty101]

People aren't saying it was republicans. People are saying it was Trump and his people. The normal republicans weren't involved.

[commandlinefan]

> Highlight the worst possible examples

... and then exaggerate those on top of it.

[TomSwirly]

Well, I'm not an American, and yet I think they're entirely right.

Also, we note you don't provide any actual rebuttal. :-)

[xboxnolifes]

I'll provide a rebuttal in a similar format to the original to serve as an example of why it is completely unhelpful and unreasonable.

One side violently took to the streets in multiples cities, destroying many small businesses, and causing significant civil unrest.

The other attempted to protect the citizens being attacked in those events and discourage further violence.

One may say that these events weren't strictly Dem vs Rep events, but current hostilities and ideas would suggest that each side was dominantly one or the other.

[Clubber]

There's nothing to rebut. The point is he's only looking at his adversarial party's ills and totally ignoring his own party's ills, or full willing to justify them. That's how it works, that's the divide and conquer. No matter what his party does, he will never vote for the other party and vice versa. That's the main way the system protects itself.