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by idontwantthis 1649 days ago
60% of Republicans believe that Biden did not win the election.

If you believe the presidency has been stolen by a conspiracy then violence is the only recourse remaining.

This is not a handful of extremists. This is the predominant view.

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Here's a fun polarizing stat for "the other side". "More than half of democrats believed Bush knew about 9/11".

https://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2011/04/more-than-h...

Of all the people I know across the spectrum, I don't know of anyone (registered or otherwise) who believes either nonsense.

And about the same number of Democrats believe the widely debunked conspiracy theory that Trump colluded with the Russians to interfere with the 2016 election or that members of congress were paid Russian assets. That's the thing about polarization. It's easy to see the crazy when it's your political enemy doing it.
Except it's not debunked. Bipartisan committee concluded Russia interfered. Multiple people in the Trump admin were acting as foreign agents. We still have no indication what was actually discussed in the Trump tower meetings, but we know they lied about it. Go read the Mueller report summaries.

I'm tired of seeing this lie spouted to dismiss all this as a " Russia hoax". It is clear there is a conflict of interest within that admin. They went to bat to remove sanctions against Russia. They blackmailed Ukraine to attack a political opponent.

https://web.archive.org/web/20171121144509/https://www.nytim...

A number of other people went to jail among the "Russiagate" investigation. It is true that none of this has ever quite reached Trump himself.

No, it's only one "side." Democratic Party isn't going in for false conspiracy theories. Republican Party is.

Just look at how the DOJ treated these two different "conspiracy theories":

1. DOJ denied any factual basis existed for Trump's election claims.

2. DOJ investigated and convicted numerous people on the basis of the Russia collusion investigation.

What's the source of that stat?
In May, the pollster Frank Luntz reported that "more than two-thirds of Republicans believe that the election was stolen”.