[cableshaft]

Up until two weeks ago my car didn't (or at least it didn't send any data anywhere, I know one mechanic hooked up an iPad to it to get some sort of real-time data from the engine once when diagnosing a transmission issue).

Drove a sedan from 2008. Had over 150k miles on it. Still drives fine, next owner might be able to get another 50k miles from it.

[madaxe_again]

Pfft, my ‘88 hilux is on 1,350,000 km. Drive train, engine, all original. The only stuff that gets changed are filters, glow plugs, tyres and oil, and the very occasional thing that goes wrong.

When it doesn’t work I can see what’s wrong by looking at it, and can fix it myself with cheap parts that are available everywhere. It’s cost me €200 in maintenance in the last three years.

Conversely I stupidly bought a 2016 truck last year and just sent it to be scrapped, as it has been absolutely nothing but trouble, has cost me about €8,000 to repeatedly repair, and it then still needed a new engine, computer, and gearbox - I’ve driven it maybe 100km and it just keeps falling apart.

They’re getting seriously good at the planned obsolescence bit.

[michaelrpeskin]

I drive an ‘89 4Runner which at the time was the same platform as your Hilux. I have the same experience as you. It just keeps running and thrives on neglect. I hope to never replace it. The new stuff is so poorly made.

I only have 300,000 miles, so you win on mileage.