[hillcrestenigma]

I just thought that this whitepaper from the Chinese government was interesting to share. I do recognise that the whitepaper is propaganda but not all my submissions have to reflect my thoughts and opinions.

Given that Hacker News occasionally has discussions on politics I believe that it is fitting to share, propaganda or not.

[travisgriggs]

I accept this. It's an interesting problem. We have but one bit (up/down) to express different thoughts about submissions, but it's not enough to express the different flavors of "downvote."

[celticninja]

Sharing propaganda is never a good idea. The only benefit is to the producers of the propaganda.

[simonblack]

Except that: "Who is it that gets to define what is propaganda and what isn't?"

The West is no more blameable or blameless than anybody else.

Many of the West's 'truths' have been later discovered to be 'lies'. Remember Saddam's WMDs? Remember those nasty Huns spiking Belgian babies with their bayonets? Remember the Vietnamese gunboats attacking a US destroyer in the 'Tonkin Gulf Incident"? Remember the Soviets sneakily placing nukes in Cuba, whereas the US would never, never have sneakily placed similar nukes in Turkey months and months long before that?

If you always listen only to one set of propaganda you'll never be able to see what the objective facts are likely to be. It's called 'Confirmation Bias". Be prepared to spend time looking at lots of other viewpoints. Most of them eventually cancel each other out, leaving a solid core of 'probable truth'.

[celticninja]

I can find evidence of my governments lies, many of their coverups fail. I don't assume I am dealing with an honest bunch of politicians. You can't do that in China. Pro govt propaganda in the West is usually pulled apart by an independent media, electoral safe guards also help identify wrongdoing. You cannot do that in China, there is one story, theirs, that's it. Question it and you get disappeared. The net effect is you cannot trust any news from China, unless that news was reported and then quickly scrubbed from the Chinese internet. In those case the story is almost certainly true.

[moistly]

Listening to yet more propaganda is not the way to find objective facts! Reject all propaganda.

[simonblack]

Reject all propaganda.

ALL news sources are biased. If you want to reject all propaganda, that's simple. Just don't watch, look or listen to any news at all.

[moistly]

Hella difference between propaganda and mere bias, dude.