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by justicezyx 1658 days ago
No I totally think US is overall superior to China right now, when comparing 2 nations snapshot vs snapshot.

But, US perception on China is so bad compared the Chain perception on US, that this imbalance is creating a huge strategic risk between 2 nuclear super power, and causes both sides troubles when they need to collaborate.

That's why it's important to unshackle the US mass from the perception bias on China.

And that's what I want to convey. I.e., stop using grandiose sweeping argument like moral superiority, which is itself so large in scope that the comparison quickly lost any relevance.

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I guess things are going to look bad to other people when you run your country as a dictatorship.

Lets meet as friends in Tiananmen square - you wear a t-shirt saying ‘what happened here in 1989?’, I’ll come dressed as Winnie the Pooh.

I am not sure what do you want to say.

> Lets meet as friends in Tiananmen square - you wear a t-shirt saying ‘what happened here in 1989?’

I think the Tankman incident is a silver light in the whole event, i.e., the individual stand against the tank, and the tank decide to go different route; and eventually the confrontation was dissolved by bystanders.

If you emphasize the confrontation, you'll use the t-shirt you mentioned.

For me, I'll wear a t-shirt stating: remember the tragedy.

And what's the point of this to do with altering the perception on China? If you just narrow your viewpoint onto Tankman, that's going to miss so much of other things happening in China.

It's like focusing on Gorge Floyd, and ignoring all the other things happening in US.

What's the point of such narrow view?

> I’ll come dressed as Winnie the Pooh.

If you cut all the implication to Xi, I see no danger whatsoever of wearing that on Tiananmen, or anywhere in China.

Politics in China is different. That's just a cultural thing. Parents are also more authoritative, that's part of the cultural as well. Mocking people public is considered an insult. Not just to Xi, to any normal Chinese citizen, that's considered inappropriate.

If you feel that your own culture is so superior that others should automatically accept; and if they don't like it, then you'll call them a lot of bad words, and try to force the narrative, then you are practicing fascism?

Good luck with that.

I guess as long as the tank tread on your neck is Chinese - it’s not a problem.

Better to be called a facist in democracy than to live in the authoritarian dictatorship you provide unceasing support to.

I pity the people of China, who don’t have a say in their government, and have no choice but to tow the party line, What’s your excuse?

Please stop posting flamewar comments to HN. It's not what this site is for, and we ban such accounts.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

> I guess as long as the tank tread on your neck is Chinese - it’s not a problem.

Are you implying mg Chinese identity will be a problem in US then? Are you threatening or are you joking?

> Better to be called a facist in democracy than to live in the authoritarian dictatorship you provide unceasing support to.

I provide uneasy support to China and CCP? No! I uneasily support the mutual understanding between China and US. And for now, the part that lacks understanding is US, and American people continue to allow themselves to be fooled by the mainstream media. While at the same time most of them do not even trust them anyway. It was just that the mental conditioning has been started since early 1900s since the rise of Communism that the distrust on MSM does not translate to critical thinking in the people's mind.

Yes for sure. My support for anything is uneasy. And only on a case by case and rational way.

I see the danger of blindfolded mindset to trigger the hot war between 2 nuclear super power. Then I act accordingly. Is that a support to China? Sure! It's a support to China just like Bill Clinton OKed China's joining to WTO. It's a support like Donald Trump squandered US supremacy and disunited the US allies. That does not make me or bill Clinton or Trump less American.

> I pity the people of China

Me too.

I support Chinese people's development. I am planning a nonprofit for my home province's education. We'll be helping youth coming to US and learn the history and culture in the American, so they have a more independent attitude towards government and power.

Like I said, changes take time, I want to contribute to the cultivation of western values in Chinese youth.

> who don’t have a say in their government

No no no...

This current iteration of Chinese government was created after the people overthrow the US backed KMT. They are going to overthrow CCP if CCP starts to behaving poorly. Look at the growing civil dissident during the haydays of rampant capitalism when people's lives are put on danger for the profits of the few.

> and have no choice but to tow the party line

They don't have choices in some basic politicians rules. Like CCP has to be the leader, and China had to be on socialism.

So what. American have to be on a 2 party system, and US has to be on a capitalist system. Is that so different?

> What’s your excuse?

I have no excuse. All I said is rational based on my own observation.

To not oppose dictatorship is to embrace it.

Sic semper tyrannis, and their bootlicking lapdogs too.

I have no issues embracing US dictatorship when Julian Assange was ruled to extract to US.

I also have no issue of embracing Chinese dictatorship when what?

The point is that nations are complicated. From individual to a national government. If you want to use dictatorship to describe 1.4b people's collective, then you are simply too lazy to think.