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by peteradio 1652 days ago
How much of your comfort in these drugs is based on who is holding power wherever you may reside?

I don't really know what you are talking about with the murder analogy. Obviously the uncomfortable issue at play here is the duality of:

Your right to swing your arms ends at my face or whatever.

Who's doing what to who here? Are you punching me with the mandate or am I punching you with my hypothetical infection and hypothetical ICU bed? Do we have to put numbers to how hypothetically infectious I am or we must fall in line and "Do whatever we can" which today happens to be getting injected with a drug that fails to prevent infection.
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dahart 1652 days ago
> How much of your comfort in these drugs is based on who is holding power wherever you may reside?

Literally zero. I know enough about science and economics to know that the US president has no bearing on the efficacy of the COVID vaccine whatsoever, just like politicians have exactly zero bearing on how well the flu vaccine works or how well Ibuprofen works.

> Your right to swing your arms ends at my face or whatever.

Right, so why in your mind doesn’t that extend to my right to not get infected by you in public?

P.S. you dodged the question: why is a mandate that the majority wants equivalent to tyranny? Do you think the mandate to buy car insurance in order to drive on public roads is tyranny?

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spurgu 1652 days ago
Oh you mean the Americans who think they have a 15-25% chance of dying from Covid if they get it? I wouldn't trust the majority to be well-informed.

https://covid19pulse.usc.edu/ (granted the numbers have been going down recently, but it still illustrates the hysteria quite well)

And I also wouldn't trust big pharma to have my best interest in mind.

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dahart 1652 days ago
> Oh you mean the Americans who think they have a 15-25% chance of dying from Covid if they get it?

Absolutely not. I meant the total number of people who have actually died from it compared to the near zero vaccine fatalities.

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spurgu 1652 days ago
Your question (not me though, but) was:

> why is a mandate that the majority wants equivalent to tyranny?

I doubt the dead people (the vast majority being 60+) are the ones mandating it.

It's the same people who think it's imperative that we vaccinate children when a) children are barely affected by the virus b) the vaccine doesn't do much for the transmission rate anyways.

And if that's a majority then the majority is simply misinformed (or stupid).

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dahart 1652 days ago
> I doubt the dead people (the vast majority being 60+) are the ones mandating it.

What’s with the silly straw man? Your last comment was a straw man too. I’m interested in a rational discussion if we can have one. Are you uninterested in that?

> if that’s a majority then the majority is simply misinformed (or stupid).

Then it seems like you’re saying the vaccine mandate is not tyranny, it’s just in your opinion stupid people, right?

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