[crate_barre]

They don’t like this devolving into politics, which they really need to get over because the historical fact (when this is all said and done) is that Covid was heavily politicized by both sides in a variety of countries.

[rout39574]

I think it's more about unsubstantiated conclusions, hysterically presented.

If the original post had outlined the data points that led them to the (IMO erroneous) impression they reached, then the point could have been rebutted.

[dathinab]

Probably I took a look at the data linked and I have absolutely not idea how he came to that conclusion.

Like if you pick a age and week and then compare the age group+week specific death rate of fully vaccinated to the death rate of the same age group+week for unvaccinated people and it at least nearly always (I haven't check all data points) very clear that the death rate for unvaccinated people is worse.