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by joelbluminator 1652 days ago
Point being? There are problematic quotes from some Zionist leaders. There are actual Nazi quotes from Palestinian leaders. The Palestinian Mufti was a known Nazi supporter and had close relations with the Nazi leadership (including visits to concentration camps etc). Even the current PA leader Abbas, who is considered a moderate, wrote a PHD which basically denies or mitigates the holocaust.

While some aspects of Zionism were indeed troubling in today's standards, when push came to shove the Zionist leadership accepted partition to two states (in 1947).

How does quoting Jabotinsky from a century ago help us in solving this conflict? Unless your only point is that current Israel should be dismanteld.

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'The Arabs will have to go but one needs an opportune moment for making it happen, such as a war." --Ben-Gurion's Diary,12July1937,and in New Judea, August-September 1937, p.220.

"I am for compulsory transfer; I do not see anything immoral in it." --David Ben-Gurion to the Jewish Agency Executive, June 1938

''The cultivated land is probably 1 million dunam. According to international law, we cannot sell anything, so maybe we should buy from those Arabs who do not want to come back.... All we need is 400 tractors, each tractor can cultivate 3000 dunam - cultivating not just for the purpose of procuring food but in order to prevent anyone from returning to their lands. Land of lesser quality should be sold to private or public sectors....At least, let us say that this confiscation is an exchange for the property the Jews from the Arab world lost when they immigrated to Palestine." --Bechor Shitrit, head of the settlement department of the Jewish National Fund, Ben-Gurion's Diary, 18 August 1948.

The quote speaks for itself, no?
Yeah...no we are definitely talking past each other. good night!