| > Oh, by the way, if fired, then commonly get to continue medical insurance coverage for some length of time. tell me then, why do a bunch of my US friends not have health insurance? even the ones who left their jobs during the pandemic? to be frank, it sounds like your income is too high for you to actually know what happens when dealing with this 'patchwork' (as you call it) shitshow system in real life, to try to get the care you need to survive. > Some of the scare is that single payer would result in some or all of (a) taxes way too high, (b) too much just wasteful, silly, and unneeded medical care, (c) low quality of care and, thus, too many people hurt or dead, (d) too little capacity where too many patients die from waiting too long for care, etc. I don't know what if anything is right/wrong with (a) -- (d), but these are concerns commonly voiced. why state all these downsides and try to play this sort of 'neutral' card by saying "I don't know what if anything is right/wrong"? all of these so called reasons (or fears/scares) are just completely irrelevant when we can see that all other global north nations have single payer systems. let me repeat that: the US is the only country that doesn't provide universal healthcare to the working class. can you help me understand why you posted this comment? to me it just looks like a laundry list of the many failed strategies used by the US govt and huge pharmaceutical corporations that have helped them scam the working class out of trillions of dollars in the form of medical debt and pharmaceutical drugs, etc.. i could probably find all this on some wikipedia page about the history of the US medical care system. |
On your post
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29474353
> tell me then, why do a bunch of my US friends not have health insurance? even the ones who left their jobs during the pandemic?
I don't know anything about the circumstances of your friends.
> to be frank, it sounds like your income is too high for you to actually know what happens when dealing with this 'patchwork' (as you call it) shitshow system in real life, to try to get the care you need to survive.
Without going into my "income", it turns out I know something about the US HRSA system: They run clinics that can do well providing primary care and then can refer patients to more advanced care when needed.
Charges vary but generally are low: At a clinic, the really poor pay nothing. If they have a little money, maybe the cost is $20 a visit. With a little more, the cost is $75 a visit.
> can you help me understand why you posted this comment?
I was responding to user
try_again
and their post at
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29472346
with in part:
> If that's a correct guess, as a European the US work standards frighten me. Health insurance so tightly coupled to work that if you get into an accident shortly after being laid off and don't have (expensive) private insurance you could be bankrupted by it.
So, I wanted to add some information to the issue of "bankrupted by it".
For your
> why state all these downsides and try to play this sort of 'neutral' card by saying "I don't know what if anything is right/wrong"? all of these so called reasons (or fears/scares) are just completely irrelevant when we can see that all other global north nations have single payer systems.
The "fears/scares" I listed really are "commonly voiced". Soooo, take this list as the POLITICAL answer to why the US does not have single payer, etc., not the rational, economic, financial, moral, medical, etc. but just the POLITICAL answer for the post of user
beckman466
at
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29474353
Or can't give a good, rational answer to
beckman466
using only what is rational, economic, financial, moral, medical, etc. and instead must at least include some of the politics. Here define politics as using false information, cherry picking evidence, quotes out of context, lies, manipulation to fool people!