[afandian]

It's nice having durable products, and frustrating when things succumb to unnecessary failure. I think that given the externalities of producing it, though, it seems increasingly short-sighted to look at that metric in isolation.

What about durability per hectare of dead forest or kilo of CO2?

Though I'm quite fond of leather shoes, I'd gladly take a slightly less durable product that's many times less harmful to produce.

[isitdopamine]

> less durable product that's many times less harmful to produce.

A big citation needed here… I am not sure boots made from locally-sourced leather are less sustainable than boots made from synthetic fibers and petroleum derivates some place in South-East Asia.

[chriswarbo]

> locally-sourced leather

Transportation costs are negligible compared to the direct and indirect impacts of raising cows

https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/food-footprints?stackMo...

> A big citation needed here…

Oh the irony...

[isitdopamine]

That link about beef explains what, exactly?

[chriswarbo]

> the direct and indirect impacts of raising cows

[isitdopamine]

Uhm, and this is relevant to discussion because…

I am sorry but I don’t really get it.

[afandian]

Citation needed for what? I don't think such a product exists yet.

I was talking about the calculus of how you appraise products.