[samstave]

>>...*my hat is off to the people who designed and implemented ADSL.*

Maybe a few will recall: San Jose California, in the epicenter of Silicon Valley -- but for some reason Comcast (was previously called *COVID*) -- and you couldnt get DSL in San Jose at the time .... literally down the street from Netflix, and freaking home DSL took YEARS for it to reach our houses...

(My point is that it was ironic that in the heart of silicon valley we couldnt even get DSL due to COVID/Comcast

[toast0]

Are you thinking of COVAD? IIRC, they were a competitive local exchange carrier, unrelated to Comcast.

As a CLEC, they could place DSL equipment in the incumbent carriers (mostly Pacific Bell/ATT, but Los Gatos Telephone company was absorbed by GTE/Verizon and I think sold to Frontier) and use the existing wiring to run DSL. In silicon valley, this doesn't offer great coverage; to get reasonable line lengths, you need to be in the telephone company's remote terminals and that's not available to CLECs.

[djweis]

It was available in CenturyLink/Qwest areas. Not sure about now, a lot of the loop products have been grandfathered recently.

https://www.centurylink.com/wholesale/pcat/fcp.html

I was one of two providers in their 13 state region that used it. It was really successful and let us put in ADSL and then Ethernet over Copper in business parks.