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by sonnyp 1656 days ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

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Them: Facebook is bad You: What about Twitter and TikTok ?

I'm pointing out that you are not refuting their point while still defending Facebook.

It seems you believe social medias are the way they are because that's all they can be.

It shows a lack of imagination and understanding of how they influence each others rather than compete to the benefit of users and society.

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They have no point to refute. What specific point are you talking about? I've been trying to pull it out.

I believe social media behemoths have been biased in their moderation / censorship and they should make their mod logs public.

That's a specific criticism and suggestion. What is your specific criticism and suggestion?

Crying whataboutism is a cop-out, you only replied to my comparisons. I said much more, including questions trying to drill their point out of them.

> Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith.

I commented this on an HN post about FB 2 years ago in response to a comment much like yours. Pasting it here:

I don't understand accusations of whataboutism. They oftentimes seem hypocritical: accusing someone of whataboutism is as relevant (and therefore, by its own logic, as rhetorically valid) as the thing it seeks to criticize.

Why is exposing double standards and hypocrisies via a relevant example not a valid form of argumentation?