[spurgu]

Hospitals have never been anywhere near collapse in most places though. Currently in Finland for example there's currently hysteria about the hospital capacity, whereas in actuality the issue is that some non-critical surgery would need to be postponed. It's far from "collapsing".

[junon]

Uh. my home state in the US had to call in the military to mediate the ER since people were starting fights because people having e.g. severe heart attacks were just turned away with a "sorry".

Italy had severe shortages of medical supplies that led to many medical workers on the frontline to die of infection.

Your personal life bubble does not reflect the rest of the world. Asserting "most places" weren't under collapse is quite strange given that it's patently false.

[spurgu]

Sigh. I've lived in three countries during this whole thing. Of course it's a problem somewhere. Not just as widespread as the media would have you believe.

I just took Finland as an example, since I have family there and happen to follow closely what's going on there (so I don't have to look things up).

And you brought up two examples. Need I remind you how many countries/regions/cities there are in the world?