[ccn0p]

>> I see it every time the topic comes up

I hear you, and agree wholeheartedly that there is "absolutely nothing wrong with this", but maybe if the topic keeps coming up, people should have less trust in the companies (and their respective flawed human supply chains) that keep our information.... and act accordingly. Unfortunately that's easier said than done these days.

[eloisius]

Sure, but you probably wouldn’t ever hear someone say “maybe you should have had less trust” if Google employees snooped on your Drive account to steal financial records or something like that to use against you. Why do we tend to treat people like they’re asking for it when their nudes get compromised?

[seabird]

But you would. People here preach that every single day.

If you had highly sensitive info of a non-sexual nature on Google Drive that was going to have a massive negative impact on your life if it got leaked, half of this site would still be saying "that's awful, but you can't trust Google" if that happened.

[dwild]

> you probably wouldn’t ever hear someone say “maybe you should have had less trust”

No you would hear the exact same thing. My sensitive data on the cloud is all encrypted. Have you ever seen anyone suggesting to do backup on any cloud platform in any other way than encrypted? That's because the data is sensitive and you can't trust whoever store it for you.

> Why do we tend to treat people like they’re asking for it when their nudes get compromised?

We do that over anything that is sensitive. It's just that nowadays, people no longer consider much of their things sensitive... except nudity.

I agree entirely that we should be able to trust companies and I agree completely that the biggest issue is on them, but the thing is, we will never be able to trust them fully, there's just too much to handle. I'm not saying not to push the responsibility on them, for sure we need to do that or it's gonna be even worse, but we also need to remind people to consider their data security and how they handle it. Both are essentials if we want to lower the number of instance of theses happenings.

I'm curious, if I upload nude picture on my Google Drive and with the password "potato", and then my picture were published by someone that guessed my password. Wouldn't you suggest a stronger password? Still a victim, but still good to suggest ways to avoid it in the future.

[Broken_Hippo]

Why do we tend to treat people like they’re asking for it when their nudes get compromised?

Because nudity is akin to sex and sexual ways, which are taboo in many societies. Upstanding citizens do not have nudes, in general. Especially women or nudes hinting at same-sex romance.

It isn't right, but it is.

Edit: I'm not saying I agree with this. But it doesn't take much to see folks putting others down for nudity. YMMV depending on where you live in the US. There is a reason most politicians (in the US) wouldn't get caught with nudes and I'm guessing that in some areas of the world, it would be even more detrimental to your life. It is the same line of thinking that punishes women for being "sluts" but are OK with men having a series of one night stands.

[dahart]

> Upstanding citizens do not have nudes, in general.

What makes you sure about this? What evidence do you have?

[pixl97]

What's great about this is you don't need evidence. People just need to believe it. People at large have a large number of vices they do in private, but the moment our private lives are made public it is very common for others to point the finger and say how dare they do that, even when said person does the same thing.

[dahart]

I remember hearing a court case where a small video rental shop was accused of renting vulgar content by someone claiming that the community standards didn’t allow pornography. This was in an area that is predominantly religious. So it hinged on whether it was true or not that people viewed such material in private. The defense was able to find both rental and internet traffic data for the region demonstrating viewing porn was basically the norm for a large percentage of the community. The court found for the video store, but IIRC the legal costs still destroyed the business.

[kelnos]

I don't think the parent was asserting that this is true, just that this is the general public sentiment in many societies (which I'd agree with, unfortunately).

[stemlord]

Neither your very strict, seemingly religious-based and ethically dubious idea of an "upstanding citizen", nor anyone else's, should ever justify someone's reputation being irreparably compromised by a professional phone repair person / google employee on the job.

Anyway, your comment doesn't seem to have much purpose but to weirdly say "this isn't right, but it actually is right."

[Broken_Hippo]

I'm not saying I agree with it, but it is an observation. I'm pro nudity, and think it should be normalized. And I'm atheist. And live in Norway, where nudity isn't as big of a deal. I lived the first 30 years of my life in the midwest US, though, in small to medium towns.

But come on, I'm sure you can find examples of folks putting down others for it. It isn't common for politicians to have nudes, at least not in the states. Melania trump had her nudes used against her (put as degrading her character): Janet Jackson had people outraged over a nipple. Facebook doesn't allow nipples. Heck, even further back, I remember folks in high school shaming a singing group (TLC?) for having nudes printed in another country (the cover wasn't even showing breasts as hands covered them).

[ccn0p]

"I'm Pro Nudity" would be a good t-shirt. but nobody would wear it.

[xxpor]

Is the second paragraph about society's expectations or reality?

[Broken_Hippo]

I'm merely saying that I don't agree with the assessment, but it is how societal expectations play out in reality.

[armchairhacker]

I don't trust Apple to not snoop on my iPhone and macbook, share the data with law-enforcement, and maybe use it to sell ads. I do trust them to not log in to my bank and transfer all my money to Tim Cook.

[pixl97]

If your money gets stolen, there is a in most financial institutions a clear line of punishment and restitution for committing said crime.

Unfortunately with snooping, we have little to no such protection, in which to many (in US) is a major erosion of constitutional rights.

[olyjohn]

People here on HN get it. But usually average Joe who isn't into tech doesn't find out they can't trust in these companies until it's too late.

[fartattack]

How do you "act accordingly" when you want to partake in sharing digital private documents with your wife? In order to follow that advice, you'd have to stop using smart phones entirely, and that's not really feasible today.

Sure, it's lurid in this case because it was nudes, but this could have just as easily been identity theft or something more mundane but equally wrong for Google to access.

No, this is what we have laws for. What Google did is wrong and if the person responsible cannot be criminally prosecuted, we should seek legislative changes to enable prosecution in cases like this in the future. This is not merely a matter of individuals trusting Google too much. The individuals don't have much choice; that's where the law can step in.