[kiba]

Your freedom to control over one's body ends when it comes to the safety and health of other people's bodies. That's why herd immunity is a thing.

[JavaBatman]

There is no right to not receive another's germs. If we take your argument to its logical conclusion, then the flu vaccine would be mandated. But it's not. So if you say that Covid is different, then what is your threshold or cut-off for when a medical procedure should be mandated?

[kiba]

There is no right to not receive another's germs. If we take your argument to its logical conclusion, then the flu vaccine would be mandated. But it's not. So if you say that Covid is different, then what is your threshold or cut-off for when a medical procedure should be mandated?

Why not? if the cost & benefit ratio is worth it, maybe we should. The same for any other diseases you can think of. If the answer is yes, then there are no reason for any of us to refuse unless we have good excuses.

[aixi]

>There is no right to not receive another's germs

Intentionally coughing on someone is a prosecutable crime in many parts of the world --- What do you think makes it a crime?

[JavaBatman]

You are smart enough to know that intentionally coughing on someone is not what I meant.

[jtbayly]

Tell me again what percent of people need to be immune before we get to herd immunity?

[SuoDuanDao]

Identical arguments are made around abortion. Or mandatory organ/blood donations. Actually, nobody argues for mandatory blood donations because we can all tell that would be icky.

[tiahura]

“herd immunity is a thing.”

It is? By Easter right? With what other coronavirus have we ever reached herd immunity?

[NoPie]

Not in the case of current covid vaccines and variants.

[Chris2048]

> safety and health of other people's bodies

Does that not include the unborn?

[crisdux]

The case for that line of reasoning is extremely weak given that vaccines provide dramatically low protection against infection and vaccinated people also infect others at high rates.