[nix23]

Yeah Germany is terrible, they buy'd NSO licenses because their own bundes-troyaner is bullshit, every second year they want to introduce "child safety measures" aka you need to identify yourself so you can browse anything else then the lego website, and many many more examples...just like this one, germany is a shame in this regard.

But Julia Reda, the CCC and netzpolitik.org are just great!

[matheusmoreira]

> every second year they want to introduce "child safety measures"

It's always the same excuse every single time. I have to wonder if this stuff actually protects children.

[nix23]

Look i am absolutely not against protecting children's from harmful stuff, but it has to be the other way around, it's not like i had to insert my ID card into the DVD player too show that i am this old...NO you put the DVD's away your children's are not supposed to watch.

I have a new revolutionary idea....setup internet filters ON your children's devices, and there are tons of websites with pre made filters (often every country has his own) and even crazier most ISP/Routers already have them implemented, on the Mobile-phones you setup VPN (back to your home-router (also already implemented from most ISP's) so even the Phones have those filters) ;)

Too much work?* Then shut up talking about protecting your/our children's, and let them browse every f*ing social media network including 4chan, tictok and that terrible facebook owned thing.

  *Not talking to the parent obviously, but to everyone who thinks it should be any other way.*****

[raxxorrax]

Most of us probably looked at questionable content while juvenile. People are still living but if some people knew what people watched at a maybe too young age it would spawn the holy inquisition of angry parents. Glad that they currently focus on the school system.

You cannot make the internet child safe, the only point of influence is what you suggested, which means parents need to get informed here. Maybe through schools of their kids.

I won't stop the government from trying though, especially the German one, which brought us presents like NetzDG. Really popular export and inspiration for dictators around the world.

[matheusmoreira]

That's the proper way to do it. I'm convinced that these laws are just a pretext for government surveillance. Opposing them is political suicide since it makes people look like pedophiles.

[nix23]

>Opposing them is political suicide since it makes people look like pedophiles.

Exactly that's the trick, not sure about the downvotes you get, but let's say in the 60', against that anti-freedom of expression/opinion?..you have to be a communist. Against Homeland security after 9/11? You have to be a terrorist, against total surveillance? Do you have something to hide? Against Apples photo scanner? Why do you have child-porn on it? And finally against destroying jews-owned shops...well we know the answer....

[matheusmoreira]

Every era has its bogeyman that allows the state to justify anything. Communists, drug dealers, pedophiles, terrorists.

[nix23]

Well said, cheers to a free world :)

[raxxorrax]

12 years olds will always have more digital competency in evading such barriers than their parents, even the newer smartphone and tablet generations.