[elbarbabrb]

Hey there, we’re a collective of italian bike-enthusiast people who are trying to sensibilize other people to avoid car usage. Check out this new platform we just launched: https://vado.cc

It’s a sort of game where you can win a prize just doing miles commuting, riding by walking, cycling or with whatever vehicle which is not fossil fuel powered (we have a lot of checks in place so cheating by using a car or a motorbike) is impossible

While we're in beta races are free to partecipate! after they're gonna be really cheap

[acomjean]

>we have a lot of checks in place so cheating by using a car or a motorbike

I used strava to track my rides a few years ago. After riding home I got in my car and did a errand. Forgot to turn the app off and it logged my driving like I was riding, though to be fair driving in my city isn’t much faster than biking….)

[coolgeek]

I've had the opposite happen in Google Maps (the activity history). It marked biked segments as occurring in a car.

Not quite sure how it happened. I probably outpaced motor vehicle traffic (I do so more often than not, in an urban environment). But that circumstance itself should have suggested the need for additional logic

[mercurywells]

After the activity is saved, you can edit and crop the activity to trim off the driving portion.

[elbarbabrb]

yeah Strava doesn't have a check in place for this, in fact there are a lot of unreal stats in there, we check the effective average speed of your commuting, and the 1st race has a avg speed limit of < 18km/h so unless you want to go around in your car at that avg speed without causing accidents or be yelled every 30 seconds is pretty much not-usable with a car.

[AnIdiotOnTheNet]

Actually I can assure you Strava does have a check for this because I've been hit by it before when accidentally forgetting to stop the activity before loading up my bike and driving home. It flags the activity and forces you to edit your route to remove the offending section.

[elbarbabrb]

yes probably they've added something during the years, but on some segments at least here in Italy, there are some crazy times and speed, light years away from PRO numbers, so there's still some cheating going on

[_Wintermute]

There's also some GPS glitches. I once got the KoM on a short section in a city where my speed was claimed 70km/h, when I probably was riding at 20.

[ferruck]

I'm usually commuting at around 23 to 25 km/h average, so you're telling me I'm not going by bike? ;-)

[elbarbabrb]

nope, we're just saying that to compete for the 1st race the avg. speed needs to be under 18 km/h, maybe the 2nd race will be just commutings > 25km/h ;)

[toyg]

Launching this in winter is sub-optimal, eh... The UK is under the snow at the moment.

Edit: also check your "gloabals" on the home.

[elbarbabrb]

haha this is very true, we decided to launch now to collect feedback and be ready for when the weather will be nicer

[exabrial]

I would love to sync my Garmin to it :) They're pretty easy going but all app integrations are hand-approved.

[elbarbabrb]

hi, yeah straight syncing with real devices like Wahoo or Garmin is something we could consider in the future, it really depends how much the platform will be used and how many requests like this we'll have

[kingsloi]

What about eBikes? Not technically powered by fossil fuels but charged by?

[elbarbabrb]

It really depends where the power comes from, not every charge station power comes from fossil sources. Btw driving an eBike is probably better than driving a car, at least for your health, and probably for the environment too

[ehnto]

At the very least, the E-Bike is far more efficient at moving a single human than using an entire car.

Moving one person using a ~1500-2500kg vehicle with an internal combustion engine with ~25% efficiency, ignoring all the fuel source logistical inefficiencies.

Compare the E-Bike, at let's say 20kg of bike and 80kg of human, so 100kg, having the energy come from even dirty power plants it will still have been far more efficient and use less energy to move the human the same distance on the e-bike.

Also consider that many (and in some countries all) e-bikes are ped-elec, or electric assist, not entirely electrically motivated, and it's looking pretty good for the e-bike!

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