[simondotau]

That article is seven years old and in no way reflects current reality. In fact it has never reflected my own experience or that of anyone I know, where iMessage spam has been near enough to non-existent.

And even if there were a spam problem, the risk is mostly on the upside anyway. It would only be an issue if iMessage got a reputation for flooding people with admonishments to take security seriously, purportedly from Apple.

[rjzzleep]

Meanwhile apple has added iMessage apps[1], that you can add to your iMessage and there recently were a few iMessage exploits including a zero-click one[2].

[1] https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT206906

[2] https://9to5mac.com/2021/07/19/zero-click-imessage-exploit/

[simondotau]

I think you have replied to the wrong person, otherwise I fail to see how either of these citations are in any way relevant.

[rjzzleep]

Yeah I did, sorry.

[aroman]

> That article is seven years old and in no way reflects current reality. In fact it has never reflected my own experience or that of anyone I know, where iMessage spam has been near enough to non-existent.

Your anecdotal lived experience is not representative of the entire population.

I personally have encountered at least a dozen spam iMessages (not SMS) in the past year, and several friends of mine have described the same experience. I googled iMessage spam and this was on the second page, just from last year: https://thisrupt.co/lifestyle/imessage-spam-not-thai-chana/ Feel free to research yourself to discover that it is in fact a widespread issue for many people, if not as widespread as it once was since the "Unknown sender" tab was introduced.

Regardless, SMS spam remains an issue, and on iOS, many users may not know the difference, as they're in the same app.

> And even if there were a spam problem, the risk is mostly on the upside anyway. It would only be an issue if iMessage got a reputation for flooding people with admonishments to take security seriously, purportedly from Apple.

You're missing the point. iMessage spam (though it does exist as I've shown above) is not the problem. The problem is iMessage doesn't have a good way to "verify" that messages that purport to be from Apple or anyone else truly are from a known and trusted sender. This deficiency is what enables iMessage spam, and creates the same potential for abuse with this new feature.

[simondotau]

> Your anecdotal lived experience is not representative of the entire population.

Of course. That goes without saying. But neither you nor this person you cherry picked from a Google search is representative either. (And it's noteworthy that you had to drill down into Google search results in order to find a useful citation. That alone is evidence of iMessage spam not being a broadly pervasive issue.)

> You're missing the point. iMessage spam (though it does exist as I've shown above)

Huh? I never said it didn't exist.

> is not the problem.

Huh? I never said it was the problem.

> The problem is iMessage doesn't have a good way to "verify" that messages that purport to be from Apple or anyone else truly are from a known and trusted sender.

I completely agree. I never disputed that.