[bell-cot]

From a pragmatic user's point of view, that would look just like "Apple didn't happen to notice that I was a target of state-sponsored activity". Recent headlines do not suggest that Apple's cyberdefenses are all that great against state-sponsored stuff.

From a more philosophical point of view - expecting a large corporation to go mano a mano on your behalf, against a major state security organization...that's right up there with expecting Santa Claus to punish all the evil spies for being naughty.

[atmosx]

And yet, in the contact tracing case both Apple and Google refused to give data and control to EU governments. I believe the contact tracing app was used against protesters in rallies about BLM though, by the FBI IIRC.

[hunterb123]

Source? Pretty bold claim to just toss out with an IIRC.

First, I haven't seen any indictments of any BLM rioters. Note when I say rioters I'm not including protesters but those who set fires and harmed people.

Second, while I'm against contact tracing apps in general for the reason they can be abused, I don't think they would be needed by LE given their ability to setup string rays, drones, and monitor social media.

Most of the BLM rioters and Antifa terrorists are known. Raz Simone is still free although he setup CHAZ, passed out rifles, and extorted public officials with political demands while claiming public land allowing 6 people to be killed under his "security".

[atmosx]

Here are some links:

- https://www.zdnet.com/article/singapore-police-had-used-covi...

- https://slate.com/technology/2020/06/contact-tracing-law-enf...

Given the past decade (Snowden & Assange) I don't find strange contact tracing being used for "other purposes". The data is readily available so, why bother with drones?