[kube-system]

I see a lot of people in the comments conflating legal requests and attacks. Regardless of your opinion on either of those issues, they are different things.

[fsflover]

NSA surveillance is illegal. Will we be notified?

[kube-system]

By "legal request" I mean requests made through channels of the law. These things aren't "attacks" because they're functionally not attacks. 'Cooperation' is the antithetical to 'attack'.

For example, when China demanded that iCloud for Chinese users was handed over to GCBD[0], and Apple complied, it was not, in any way, something that would be accurately described as an "attack". Apple cooperated with the demands that the legal environment presented.

[0] https://www.apple.com/legal/internet-services/icloud/en/gcbd...

[seoaeu]

If Apple learns of NSA surveillance of a specific individual... maybe? Beyond that what are you suggesting they do, send an alert to everyone in the US that the NSA might be spying on them?

[lern_too_spel]

Which surveillance? By what ruling? The phone metadata collection was ruled illegal, but that does not affect Apple.

[WarOnPrivacy]

Under rulings that never happen due to the FISA court declaring a lack of standing due to the court keeping the evidence secret that proves standing.

It utterly sucks having the sole oversight court having IC's back at our expense.

[fsflover]

> By what ruling?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24356741

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24362047

[lern_too_spel]

Both of those are about the phone metadata program I mentioned. That doesn't affect Apple.