[hereforphone]

Couple of comments:

- This is posted and discussed frequently

- This was a pretty impressive feat of engineering

- The most unusual thing is that this remained secret. Because there were a few people involved and three+ can't keep a secret. They don't even have a reason to anymore. I've often wondered whether this group of folks died shortly after this.

[redleggedfrog]

While it was most certainly a feat of engineering, I feel that it assays a work of performance art. It is strangely disturbing, and at the same time fascinating.

[hereforphone]

Also true. It was great.

[Reason077]

I'm pretty sure that's the current UK prime minister, Boris Johnson, in the bowler hat at the start of the video. Obviously he was a lot younger back then but it's him, right?

[danachow]

I admit my memory may be spotty - but was there any reason to believe this could not easily have been pulled off by 2 people - ie a married couple? Sure relationships break up but I’ve seen plenty of secrets go to a married pair’s grave.

[a1pulley]

> I’ve seen plenty of secrets go to a married pair’s grave.

Is that possible?

[Angostura]

Yes - the commenter murdered their spouse.

[hn_go_brrrrr]

With the fly swatter, naturally.

[Retr0id]

One can infer that a secret exists, without knowing its contents.

[disillusioned]

Well, if you know your grandparents have a family recipe for something, say, and they never reveal it, then sure, it's a knowable thing. But I like the cheek.

[storyinmemo]

"I don't know how yous done it, but I know yous done it!"

[galaxyLogic]

> ... three+ can't keep a secret.

Just this week we saw the news that 2 men convicted in the murder of Malcolm-X were actually innocent. How is it possible that TWO innocent men were convicted as guilty of the same murder in the same trial?

I think that is only possible if there truly was a conspiracy to convict them, rather than investigate further to find out the real killers.

I think more than three people must have known that these people were innocent, since there really was no evidence against them was there?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/2-men-wrongly-convicted...

[irjustin]

Seems pretty unrelated but I'll bite.

Juries are terrible accurately deciding the truth. Everyone has their own agenda. Prosecutors are measured against won trials. Defenders typically aren't paid enough.

People of color's conviction rates are significantly higher historically speaking. It's so easy to say "well black people commit more crimes and are worse people". If you dig beneath the surface this clearly isn't true. We're just beginning to grapple with systemic racism (like in the case of Malcolm X's murders).

And I get it, there's so much wrong with the system but there needs to be some sort of system. No matter what system you put in place, it will be wrong. It won't be able to cover 100% of the cases accurately.

This is all to say - if at all possible, don't get in front of a jury.