[jazzyjackson]

not just banks, but everywhere you can spend it in country. fine you can move money between virtual accounts and buy NFTs all day, but government can control whether local business are allowed to accept your crypto as payment, so you’ll need to liquidate crypto into local currency - which kind of sucks to do if the banks aren’t there to help.

[xtracto]

This hasnt been a problem forvseveral years. There are different options:

- buy international prepaid cards for legal dervices (bitrefill)

- use p2p local crypto exchanges: localcrypto, localmonero (in some countries this can be 100% anonymous by using the "withdraw from atm with 1 time code" bank services)

- Exchange to alternate "tokens" that are legal (anyone remembers Linden dollars to BTC market around 2010?)

- Exchange locally via sneakernet.

[LegitShady]

>buy international prepaid cards for legal dervices (bitrefill)

within the country, you'd be committing a crime acquiring stuff using crypto. The cards are international but you're committing the act locally.

>use p2p local crypto exchanges: localcrypto, localmonero (in some countries this can be 100% anonymous by using the "withdraw from atm with 1 time code" bank services)

Will all be banned and illegal services. If it touches a bank you'll likely get extra charges on top for money laundering or similar.

>Exchange to alternate "tokens" that are legal

That will be tracked by the government if legal, or illegal if not tracked.

>Exchange locally via sneakernet

"exchange on black market"

None of these things are solutions.

[betwixthewires]

Your point boils down to "but it will be illegal." The point you're responding to that you missed was "it doesn't matter if it is illegal, people will do it." All of those are just examples of ways to avoid getting caught. They're not solutions to it being illegal, they're solutions to getting caught.

[jazzyjackson]

I think there’s a distinction between “people will do it even tho its illegal” and “illegality prevents mass adoption” - the government still achieves its goals if the only opportunities to transact with crypto are mired in legal risk.

[betwixthewires]

"Mass adoption" is a buzzword that means "a lot of people use it." In it's purest form it means everyone uses it, but that's not absolutely necessary to consider it widely used.

There are plenty of things in ubiquitous use that are illegal in some places, or even most places. Alcohol is ubiquitous, guns are everywhere, gambling, cocaine and marijuana come to mind, people modify their cars beyond legality quite often. Lots of people do illegal financial activity as well, most people transact under the table when the opportunity arises. You can have a scenario where cryptocurrencies are widely used even in places that ban them but are so ubiquitous that enforcement is untenable.

[EugeneOZ]

Every option looks risky, people will not use it widely.