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by n8cpdx 1666 days ago
Russia is clearly willing to fuck with energy supplies for strategic reasons, like preventing a vigorous response to the invasion of Crimea, or future sanctions against Belarus, or whatever else. Building dependence on Russia is obviously a bad idea given their current leadership.

https://www.wired.com/story/russian-hackers-attack-ukraine/a...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93Ukraine_gas_d...

Of course EU should be seeking energy independence, as US is also an unreliable partner (see Trump).

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You just posted a link where there is a clear statement about Ukes not paying money for gas.

"Russia claimed Ukraine was not paying for gas, but diverting that which was intended to be exported to the EU from the pipelines. Ukrainian officials at first denied the accusation, but later Naftogaz admitted that because of harsh winter (lower than minus 30C) some natural gas intended for other European countries was retained and used for domestic needs."

If you want to pay for it - go ahead

From that Wikipedia article I take that Ukraine was not paying the bills and such. What do you expect a supplier to do?
Are you expecting landlord to kick out tenant when they are late in payment? Are you also expecting landlord to interfere with the domestic affair of the tenant and threaten to kick the tenant out when things don’t go their way?
> On 8 June 2010, a Stockholm court of arbitration ruled Naftohaz of Ukraine must return 12.1 billion cubic metres (430 billion cubic feet) of gas to RosUkrEnergo

So they stole billions of cubic metres, and let the conflict escalate to a lawsuit. That is not paying late, that is theft.

And landlords do kick you out when you are sufficient late in paying the rent. What would you suggest otherwise? Enter a relationship therapy with them?

This is a very selective take from all those Russia-Ukraine relationships.

It's clear now that Russia just wants to destroy Ukrainian independence and its culture. And it's using any possible leverage to achieve this.

Ah, thanks for your perspective which sounds totally objective.