[tcbawo]

I can imagine a good portion of the population would not be inclined to take the advice of any President on self-moderation. The number of people struggling to keep their head above water is very high. The best chance we have is to make the environmentally friendly approaches profitable, especially if it creates local jobs and opportunity.

[tonyedgecombe]

>The number of people struggling to keep their head above water is very high.

Yet American emissions per capita are among the highest in the world. Something doesn't add up.

[scollet]

Being poor is incredibly expensive.

[tonyedgecombe]

In reality climate change is a problem caused by the rich, not the poor. Poor people can't afford to consume much, it's the rich who can afford big cars, large houses and flights to Bali.

[scollet]

I don't think consumers on the lower class strata could be blamed for climate change, but we have a series of massive industrial complexes and incentives which creates a lot of feedback.

Those without the means don't really have the leverage against this economic apparatus.

I think you're right, but we'll need to see a lot of empathy and humility exemplified in our societal power structures.

I don't like that we built those structures as pyramids, but I also don't think anyone likes the idea of the foundation collapsing.