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by daenney 1677 days ago
The Terms of service seem worrisome.

> By posting your Contributions to any part of the Site or making Contributions accessible to the Site by linking your account from the Site to any of your social networking accounts, you automatically grant, and you represent and warrant that you have the right to grant, to us an unrestricted, unlimited, irrevocable, perpetual, non-exclusive, transferable, royalty-free, fully-paid, worldwide right, and license to host, use, copy, reproduce, disclose, sell, resell, publish, broadcast, retitle, archive, store, cache, publicly perform, publicly display, reformat, translate, transmit, excerpt (in whole or in part), and distribute such Contributions (including, without limitation, your image and voice) for any purpose, commercial, advertising, or otherwise, and to prepare derivative works of, or incorporate into other works, such Contributions, and grant and authorize sublicenses of the foregoing.

It sounds an awful lot like "we are allowed to do anything and everything we want with the content you upload to us". Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but I'd be extremely hesitant to upload any content I create to a service with those kinds of terms.

3 comments

I agree. The terms will be changed. I used an auto-generated Terms generator for now (termly.io)

I would like to rewrite it.

What I do is just keep your files on the server for a week. In case you have an issue, I will look into your file to fix your issue. And if you want, you can give consent for me to further improve the service. (Say you have an accent which the AI is bad and I can use your audio file to understand why it failed.)

With this statement you’ve now shown that your site doesn’t take contracts seriously and opened the door to people arguing future contacts are also invalid. I’d delete this response asap.
What? This person made something, we pointed out an improvement and they said they'd change it. You're literally complaining that it wasn't perfect already, and thus they somehow don't "respect stuff".
Sorry, who said “respect stuff?” I don’t see what you’re quoting. And who is “complaining?” I will just restate the warning, admitting that you’ve auto generated terms, didn’t know what was in them and forced everyone to sign them invalidates all terms of the current contract and gives ground for future disputes on completely new contracts. So… I’ll reiterate my recommendation to delete the post. This seems to have stuck a nerve with you so I’m not looking to get into it beyond that.
Why? They can change the policy and ask for a confirmation, as every service out there is already doing.
How and when have you seen it happen that a contract was invalidated by one party indicating that they would prefer a more appropriate contract?
Thanks for the heads up. I’m a little hesitant to upload something now. On the flip-side, I think devs just want total protection while they navigate the landscape of machine learning. I agree that they could have worded things better but someone who worked on writing this probably didn’t understand the nuances of machine learning or the countries that people would be signing up from. Plus they’ll need to constantly use datasets for their internal purposes to train.
Yes, that's exactly the case. As I previously commented, I used an terms generator, until I get a lawyer, which can write specifically what I do with the data.
Thank you.

I would pay for a piece of software that does that job on my computer with no Internet.

This way? I may even end up in court for saying something “improper”…

Edi. OK: I’ve just read the developer’s reply below.

Honestly: you need to fix this because right now it is more scary than not.

Congratulations for the project but please do fix this.

I agree. More and more AI applications are exploiting our data in negative ways.

I will get proper terms soon as possible. Especially, since now people have mentioned it.