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by danielvf 1677 days ago
Open source funding hits art. Anyone can view it and get the benefit of doing so, the artist got paid to create, somebody gets bragging rights. Everybody wins.
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Everybody wins except for the part where a bunch of people wasted a bunch of energy competing to be the one whose computer confirmed the financial transaction in an absurdly inefficient distributed database.

Patreon's been solving the problem of "open source funding" for about a decade without that part.

> in an absurdly inefficient distributed database

Suppose you wanted a distributed system where arbitrary nodes can enter without vetting. You'd need to be robust to adversarial nodes that lie and collude. Distributed consensus under asynchrony and adversaries seriously ramps up the difficulty of already challenging problems typically solved by Paxos derived algorithms. The first moderately scalable solution to consensus within such a hostile environment and with relatively few moving parts was built on a proof of work scheme inspired by hashcash. It's not inefficient, it's just a complex domain.

It should be noted that NFTs run on Ethereum which has been in the process of moving to the vastly more efficient proof of stake scheme.

> Patreon's been solving the problem of "open source funding" for about a decade without that part.

There are a number of developing nations whose citizens cannot participate on Patreon. For others, there are workarounds that involve hurdles like navigating providers with worse customer service rep than paypal, giving out sensitive identification, high fees, high withdrawal friction and chaining various third parties who themselves might disappear or be indirectly connected to fraudulent banks.

> wasted a bunch of energy competing

A problem of PoW based consensus, and will not be relevant to PoS/X based consensus.

> absurdly inefficient distributed database.

A decentralized distributed database with read/append commands available to any participant.

> Patreon

A centralized company.

You're not wrong, but you aren't making any points that people who are interested in crypto don't already know, or care about.

> will not be relevant to PoS/X based consensus

It's relevant now.

"Maybe someday crypto will move off of PoW so you should completely ignore the fact that there the networks exist entirely because PoW is how people get paid" is a bunch of bullshit that does nothing to change the fact that Proof Of Wasting A Lot Of Power On Nothing is how it works right now. Right now I consider crypto finding a way to work that doesn't burn shit-tons of energy to be about as likely as The Year Of Linux On The Desktop finally coming to pass.

We already had pateron, github sponsors, etc. for that with significantly less complication and barely any scams.
Do any of those allow you to resell purely digital art?
Yes, they just don't have any mechanism to assist you in doing so. Not that resale is of any use as regards funding the artist anyway.
Yes, it is a completely contrived marketplace based on bragging rights. It seems to work, but it is incredibly stupid and eventually people will move on.
Welcome to the art world.
this is another instance of the phenomenon in tech and startup culture where someone claims to solve an already solved problem with a needlessly overly complicated technical "solution"