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by havkd 1679 days ago
Stop trying to get the government involved in everything. It’s not Apple’s fault someone is stalking you using their technology.
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I had a gut negative reaction to this comment (the government comment is irrelevant).

But to play devil's advocate, can't someone buy any cheap old iPhone (or any smartphone), activate it with a cheap prepaid plan, and use the phone itself as a tracking device instead of an airtag?

I guess the only thing special about the airtag is it's (slightly) cheaper than a cheap smartphone, longer battery life, and explicitly marketed for the purpose of tracking things. Even if a cheap prepaid smartphone can accomplish the same thing while going completed undetected.

> But to play devil's advocate, can't someone buy any cheap old iPhone (or any smartphone), activate it with a cheap prepaid plan, and use the phone itself as a tracking device instead of an airtag?

When I was younger I had a friend who worked in a cellular phone store (back when most people went to a physical store to buy cell phones).

He very frequently got customers asking for another phone to do exactly this. It was a common problem for their commission structure because the cheap phones used for tracking people (usually spouses suspected of cheating) were often returned within 30 days and their data plan cancelled, which was a net negative for their sales stats and commission structure.

The battery life makes it a whole different issue. AirTags have a battery life of 1 year versus a burner phone with a battery life of 2 days.
As of the latest iPhone release, "Find my iphone" still works even when you power the iphone off (there's a warning that says this when you attempt to shut down your iphone). I wonder how long an iPhone will hold its charge while powered off.
How is it irrelevant? "Apple needs be forced" By whom if not the government?
Because the law should not be targeting a specific company. If the government wants to make tracking illegal, then make tracking illegal.
The practical difference being battery life of an iPhone versus an AirTag.
Ok, what about many of the hundreds of commercially available trackers from china?
How long does the battery of the tag last vs the battery of a full phone?