[asmos7]

I fail to see what good it is to own a mansion and have a bunch of toys if you live in a dangerous area where you have to put up a gate, have armed guards and in general worry about someone knocking you over the head and stealing your shit. Being the richest person in the ghetto is like being tallest midget - who cares.

[GDC7]

And none of that happens anywhere basically (except maybe some barrios in El Salvador or Venezuela)

Besides, in this world the shit is everywhere it's just the color that changes and the window dressing that makes people believe otherwise.

I'd rather deal with impoverished people and deal personally with my security than some scum of Silicon Valley such as Elizabeth Holmes or Elon Musk.

[jfk13]

Have you personally tried moving from a stable, developed country to somewhere with much lower cost of living?

I lived for some years in a "good" suburb of a pretty well-known third-world city. Everyone had security bars on the windows and razor wire (or similar) atop their walls. Many of our neighbours employed round-the-clock armed guards.

I personally witnessed a police-vs-robbers shootout (leaving at least one dead on the ground) from my office window. For a while, carrying a pillion passenger on a motorcycle was banned because it was such a popular way to do drive-by shootings.

The majority of the expatriate community I knew there had personally experienced violent crime of some form (armed break-ins, hold-ups, car-jacking, etc). So had some of my local friends, of course, though many of them were much less well-off and therefore less of a target (you can't snatch someone's car at gunpoint if they don't have one).

When disorder and violence is that pervasive in a society, it can be pretty hard to live with.

But many aspects of the cost of living were indeed lower.

[GDC7]

> I personally witnessed a police-vs-robbers shootout

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout

Present day Lagos is not that much unlike the Los Angeles of the 1990s or the NYC of the 1970s and 80s.

Problem , of course there'll always be a safer place, by the same token people who live in present day LA or NYC are suicidal considering they could live in Montana or Utah, or Zurich.

Where nothing ever happens (good or bad)

[wonderwonder]

I am from a third world country and moved to the US. I have seen plenty of violence from where I am from. Elon musk has never tried to car jack me.