[secondaryacct]

Yeah I m in the same boat. I come from France, an old, maybe aging, proud of itself democracy and... when I discovered Singapore then Hong Kong, two semi-dictatorships in different ways, omg: I had never seen people so free in ways we cant be free in France.

So now that Im a permanent resident in Hong Kong, joking with everyone next step is Chinese citizenship, I'm a bit at a loss when it comes to freedom. Not corruption, efficiency, representativity, predictable justice or even fairness, where clearly I cant argue against France and for China/HK. But just freedom itself, I feel it goes so much beyond the ability to vote and complain publicly. I cant define it just like you, but when I look around me in the middle of a street in Hong Kong, even now, I feel so much freer that in Paris... it's weird.

[beaconstudios]

are you sure you're not mixing up freedom and stability? Individual freedom is not something China is known for.