[bko]

> Freedom exists only as an equilibrium between your freedom and that of others, between paralyzing order and utter chaos

What does this mean? As in your freedom to swing your fists ends at the tip of my nose? Or something else?

[kelseyfrog]

It's a common refrain here to setup a weird dichotomy between freedom and some other X. It's a thought anti pattern - a rootless piece of social knowledge that people were told at some point that never went examined. There are so many cases of freedom AND X, that it's easy to disprove.