[256DEV]

It's a move in the right direction but I can't help but feel that this is an example of a massive corporation getting ahead of regulation with a watered down version of right-to-repair than Apple suddenly having a genuine change of heart...

That said, my sincere hope is that this move doesn't dampen enthusiasm amongst people considering switching from Macbooks to Framework laptops. We desperately need a computer manufacturer that puts repairability at the core of their design process and Framework has made such a high quality start that it even with their first attempt it doesn't feel like a compromise!

If you care about really owning your device and being able to repair it take a close look at the caveats Apple may include in the actual details of this programme versus with Framework.

[abletonlive]

>enthusiasm amongst people considering switching from Macbooks to Framework laptops.

That's like five people. The real enthusiasm is amongst people waiting for their m1 macbook pros to be delivered.

[endemic]

Yeah, the M1 hardware sounds great -- Apple continuing Jobs' vision of locking down the platform is not so great. n+1 here for leaving the Apple ecosystem.

[rank0]

I dunno I’m gonna switch once my 2018 MBP bites the dust. The apple ecosystem is pretty slick but I’m getting fed up with vendor lock in.

[quitit]

Is there a scenario where you feel this would have an effect on Framework?

I ask because it seems like those are two different customers.

The issue of hivemind thinking in forums is that it projects a uniform idea of what customers value while ignoring the obvious demographics. Apple gets a lot of scorn on here because their products suit an audience which differs quite a bit from the typical HN commenter.

If using this forum as an example, everyone wants a fully editable device, and wants every vendor to make such devices - but actually not buy from said vendors because they’re evil. I find this idea of people wanting to control the design of devices they’ll never buy to be such an interesting concept - that’s also why I don’t see the Framework buyer ever being allured to Apple’s laptops.

Following on from this I fully expect this move from Apple to be seen here as anything but a good thing: such as tokenism, part of a grand evil scheme, or similar conspiracy-level plan. This is in spite of a high-level view of Apple steadily expanding repair options over the last decade. Not to get philosophical, but it does have a Friedrich Nietzsche feel to it all: that apple’s actions don’t matter, they’ll always be construed into being a scheme.