[morelisp]

> the C build ecosystem is quite a lot worse than the JS ecosystem

Other than module packaging (and that's admittedly a big "other than"), I don't agree. Esbuild is the first tool I used that's even close to e.g. Make in comprehensibility (~ ease of use x flexibility x ability to debug when something goes wrong). That's a pretty low bar, and I don't know how long esbuild will stay that way.

[throwaway894345]

Agree to disagree I guess. I don't want to go to bat for JS, but I've done more than my share of C and C++ and Make, CMake, Autotools, etc are just fucking nuts, and that's ignoring the fact that they completely punt on package management. JS is painful by the standards of modern programming languages, but C and C++ are on the next level.

"Stockholm Syndrome" is the only way I can rationalize people vouching for C or C++ (or JS, to a significantly-lesser-but-still-not-negligible extent) build tooling.