[el_dev_hell]

I don't agree with the person you're replying to, but this is a bizarre take:

> There is no societal problem for which "just move away" is a solution.

Why make such an absolute?

Here are a collection of societal problems where "just move away" would be a great solution (some are dumb, but I think they're still valid):

* The local community has pushed towards street art in local parks. You strongly dislike street art.

* Your neighbours like to get drunk (in a non-violent way) every night. They're not overly noisy, but they have gross yards and you have a level of concern that the drunks will eventually make a terrible choice that impacts you (such as drunk driving into your bedroom).

* Lack of kids. You have a family of 4 and the local neighbourhood is filled with retired professionals with no kids. You want to live somewhere that enables your kids to socialise.

* Wayne, your long term neighbour, is using meth. He's managing his addiction very well, but he openly shoots up in the shed with his roller door open. You don't like seeing needle drug users shooting rock.

[catlikesshrimp]

You can't tell the poor to "move away" from their place of residence. They mostly can't Even if their neighbor is a murderer.

The nimby situation is forcing the less fortunate people to commute beyond what is humane. A 2 hour commute is not healthy. And they CAN'T move away, mostly.

[el_dev_hell]

I'm not disagreeing with that at all.

My issue is with this absolute claim:

> There is no societal problem for which "just move away" is a solution.

That's just untrue and useless to claim. It doesn't help the conversation. Moving away can be a solution to a lot of problems. It might not be feasible in all cases, but it would still solve the problem at hand.

I'm not advocating for this at all. That doesn't change the fact it's a solution.

[endisneigh]

I'm curious which societal problems you think are fixed by moving? Indeed moving can resolve the issue for a given individual but I cannot think of any situation in which moving solves the underlying problem.

[a_shovel]

None of these are what I would call "societal problems".

2 and 4 are problems with individuals, not a society.

That 1 and 3 are, in your words, "dumb", really does affect their validity. These are things you can live with. Unaffordable rent, not as much.

The problem isn't "My rent is too high", the problem is "The rent is too high everywhere I'd want to live". It's affecting a whole population; that's what makes it societal.